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1836 A - Groat Obv.1 |
1836 B - Groat Obv.2 |
1836 C - Groat Obv.3 |
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1836 A - Groat Obv.1 & 2 I of GUIELMUS points to a border tooth |
1836 C - Groat Obv.3 I of GUIELMUS points to a gap between teeth |
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| 1836 A - Groat Obv. 1 | 1836 B - Groat Obv. 2 | 1836 C - Groat Obv. 3 |
1836 A Groat - Obv. 1 Small head - I of GUIELMUS points to a border tooth.
The front tip of William's neck points is to left of the colon dots after D: of F: D: Note the gap.
The border teeth are thin and have well spaced gap between the teeth. 122 teeth.
William's hair at the top of his head is in crump. A front curl & 3 fatter tufts to the left.
The front curl is behind and away from the B of BRITANNIAR
The D of D: G: point to a gap between two border teeth.
The colon dots after D : point to a border tooth and are very close to the D.
The R of BRITANNIAR points to the left of a border tooth.
The R of REX points directly to a border tooth.
The E of REX points to the left of a border tooth.
Davis - D. 380
1836 B is listed by Davis as D. 382 - " reads: 'D : G:'" -
It is possible that he did NOT listed this variety as a different die as he possible
could not find anything else different to Obv. 1 '"reads: 'D: G:'" [colon dots close to D:]
However on close examination there are further differences to Obv. 1 which I list &
show above. I have decided to call this obverse die - Obverse 2
1836 B Groat - Obv. 2 Small head - I of GUIELMUS points to a border tooth.
The front tip of William's neck points in front of the colon dots after D: of F: D:
William's bust appears to be the same size as per obverse 1 but positioned
at a very slightly different angle to Obv. 1 - See images.
The border teeth appear fatter and shorter.
The D of D : G: to points to a border tooth.
The colon dots after D : point to a gap between two border teeth.
The colon dots after D : are much further away from the D than on obv. 1
The R of BRITANNIAR points to a gap between two border teeth.
The R of REX points to a border tooth.
The E of REX points to a border tooth.
Davis - D. 382
This variety is not listed by either Davis or by Maurice Bull in the 'new' English Silver Coinage.
1836 C Groat - Obv.3 Larger head - I of GUIELMUS points to a gap between border teeth.
The front tip of William's neck is directly above and close to the colon dots after D: of F: D:
The order teeth are slightly thicker than obv. 1 and the gap between is narrower.
The D of D : G: to points to a border tooth.
The colon dots after D : point to a gap between two border teeth.
The R of BRITANNIAR points to a gap between two border teeth.
The R of REX points to a border tooth.
The E of REX points to a border tooth.
In the last 10 plus years I have had over 30 x 1836 Obverse 1 Groats in stock, but only 1 x
x Obverse 2 and 2 x Obverse 3.
I cannot be sure if my Obverse 1 came before or after Obverse 2 but as yet I have been unable
to find any example of bverse 2 for 1837. I would be pleased if any collector can confirm that
they have an example of (my) obverse 2 in their collection
I feel that Obverse 3 was made towards the end of the run for 1836 and used mainly for 1837 Groats.
Examples of 1836 Groats with Obv. 1 are normal. Example of Obv. 2 & Obv. 3 are scarce to rare.
I have so far found only one example of Obv. 2 and only 2 of Obv. 3.
The new 'English Silver Coinage' reference book makes no mention of any Obv. varieties for 1836 Groats.
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