CODE
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DATE |
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[GR]
GB GROATS 1836 - 1888 |
GRADE |
Price (£) |
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Information on the "BRITANNIA(R)"
Groat
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The
coin
Has
a diameter of 16mm (the same as for the silver 3d)
It
is thicker (than the silver 3d) and has a milled edge.
It
weighs 1.9 grams (The silver 3d 1.3 grams)
The
obverse die for the William IV (1836 & 1837) series
&
the Victoria Young head series (1838 to 1862 [Proof])
is
the same as that used for the silver 3d of that period.
The
obverse die for the 1888 Groat is unique to the
Groat
as the legend has D: G: BRITANNIAR
where
as the 3d has DEI GRATIA BRITT:
*
The Maundy 4d is slightly wider at 17mm and plain edge
the
weight is the same at 1.9 grams
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Historical
information
In
the UK (England) the MP Joseph Hume campaigned
for
the re-introduction of the 4d (Groat) last made for
currency
in the period of 'Hammered' coin in the mid 1600
(not
counting the Maundy 4d) as it was the Hansom cab
fare
for the shortest journey. This coin was not popular
with
the Hansom cab drivers as they had been used to
being
offered a 6d for the fare and the 2d change
was
quite often give as a "Tip" as they generally
said
that they had no change !
This
coin became known as a "Joey" (after Joseph Hume).
Some
time after the Groat was withdrawn in the UK in
1887
the term 'Joey' became known as the '3d Joey'
The
early Groats we struck for use in the UK,
however,
they were extremely popular and used
extensively
in the West Indies and British Guiana
where
currency was in short supply and the Groat
was
valued the same as a "Bitt" or 8 Cents (W. Indies)
or
1/4 Guilder (B. Guiana).
The
4d fell out of favour in 1845, in the UK, due to the
introduction
of the silver 3d into circulation. The 3d
from
1834 to 1844 were basically for Colonial use.
The
size being in the same for both coins was
another
factor for the decline in use of the 4d in the UK.
The
1888 Groat (last date) was made for exclusive use
in
British Guinea. In 1891 British Guiana had their own
4
pence coin made with the re-introduction of Young
Queen
Victoria (coronet head) on the obverse and
British
Guyana & West Indies legend on the reverse,
with
a crowned Four Pence in the centre.
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William IV 1831 - 1837 |
Die Axis
↑↑ on all currency coins |
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1836 -
3 Obverse dies
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Obv. 1
Small head D of D: G: to gap & colon dots after D: very close |
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Obv. 2
Small head D of D : G :to a border tooth & colon dots after D
: wide |
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Obv.
3
Large head D of D : G: to a border tooth
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GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A [D. 380]
- Bright |
pAS |
140.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A [D. 380]
- Bright |
EF+-pAS |
125.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A [D. 380] -
Light tone |
EF+-pAS |
125.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A [D. 380] -
Toned |
EF+ |
115.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A [D. 380] -
Light tone around legend |
EF+ |
110.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A
Obv. Slightly proof-like field |
EF/EF+ |
100.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A (D.380) - Bright |
EF-EF+ |
95.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A (D.380) - Toned |
EF-EF+ |
95.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A [D. 380]
- Bright |
EF |
80.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A [D.380] - Toned |
EF? |
65.00 |
GR |
1836 |
A |
1 + A |
Fine |
7.50 |
GR |
1836 |
B |
2 + A [D. 380]
Obv. Tiny scuff by face |
EF/EF+ |
125.00 |
GR |
1836 |
C |
3 + A
(Larger head) - Very scarce |
VF |
125.00 |
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1837 - 3 Obverse dies
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Obv. 1
Small head:
D of D: G: to a gap between border teeth |
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Obv. 2
Small head:
D of D : G :to a border tooth & colon dots after D :
wide |
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Obv. 3
Large head:
I of GULIELMUS to gap; R
of REX to tooth |
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Obv. 4
Large head (recut hair)
I of GULIELMUS to gap; R
of REX to
gap. |
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GR |
1837 |
A |
1 + A [D.383] Slabbed by NGC as MS64
Sorry - unable to scan as the coin
just blurs
Rubbish pictures |
pAS |
235.00 |
GR |
1837 |
A |
1 + A [D. 383]
Scarce obv. type |
pAS |
225.00 |
GR |
1837 |
A |
1 + A [D. 383]
Choice toned |
EF+ |
175.00 |
GR |
1837 |
A |
1 + A [D. 383] Bright |
EF+ |
175.00 |
GR |
1837 |
A |
1 + A [D. 383]
Brightish |
EF-EF+ |
150.00 |
GR |
1837 |
A |
1 + A [D. 383]
Bright |
EF?-EF |
115.00 |
GR |
1837 |
B |
2 + A -
No examples of this obverse have
yet been |
found for |
this date |
GR |
1837 |
C |
3 + A [D. 384] Slabbed by NGC as
MS64
Sorry - unable to scan as the coin
just blurs
Rubbish pictures |
pAS |
235.00 |
GR |
1837 |
C |
3 + A
Obv. Die crack at 8 o'clock |
EF+ |
185.00 |
GR |
1837 |
C |
3 + A Obv. Die crack at 1 o'clock |
VF+- |
65.00 |
GR |
1837 |
D |
4 + A
Full colon dots after BRITANNIAR : |
EF+ |
150.00
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GR |
1837 |
D |
4 + A
Full colon dots after BRITANNIAR : |
EF-EF+ |
125.00 |
GR |
1837 |
D |
4 + A Full colon dots after BRITANNIAR: |
EF |
95.00 |
GR |
1837 |
D |
4 + A
Weak top colon dot after BRIT ~ : |
EF |
95.00 |
GR |
1837 |
D |
4 + A
Weak top colon dot after BRIT ~ : |
VF+-EF? |
65.00 |
GR |
1837 |
E |
4 + A
Stop only after BRITANNIAR . |
EF |
125.00 |
GR |
1837 |
E |
4 + A
Stop only after BRITANNIAR . |
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Obv.Slight indent on neck
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EF?-EF |
95.00 |
GR |
1837 |
E |
4 + A
Stop only after BRITANNIAR . |
VF+ |
65.00 |
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For
lower grades see our Silver bullion section |
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Victoria [Young head] 1837
(!)
A very unusual re-strike Proof ! |
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GR |
1837 |
X |
Obverse type 3 head Proof -
dated 1837 |
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Victoria [Young head] 1838 - 1862 |
Obverse Type 1
1838 - 1855
1853 (Proof) has several obverse types
1854 & 1855 (Currency) - only obverse Type 1
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Die Axis
↑↑ on all currency coins |
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From
1838 to 1841 most obverses I have
seen
have an extra colon dot -
(below)
the 2 colon dots after F :
sometimes
the extra dot is missing or unclear
&
an extra colon dot (below & between)
the
D : colon dots.
The
one with the D is more pronounced.
The
D has also been seen doubled in 1839 |
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1838 - 1888 Reverse die variations |
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Rev. Type A -
Normal un-broken font lettering for PENCE |
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Rev. Type Aa -
Part broken "C" in PENCE (transition die) |
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Rev. Type B -
Broken "C" in PENCE |
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1838 - Reverse & date
varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type Aa & Ab - Part broken 'C' in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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Date Type C - 8 over 8 sideways |
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GR |
1838 |
A |
Rev. Type A
Complete C
Bright |
pAS |
175.00 |
GR |
1838 |
A |
Rev. Type A
Complete C Hint of tone |
EF+-pAS |
150.00 |
GR |
1838 |
A |
Rev. Type A
Bright |
EF+ |
125.00 |
GR |
1838 |
A |
Rev. Type A
Light tone around legend |
EF? |
50.00 |
GR |
1838 |
Aa |
Rev. Type Aa Part broken C...........Bright |
pAS |
205.00 |
GR |
1838 |
Ab |
Rev. Type Ab
More of C broken off
Bright |
pAS/EF+ |
165.00 |
GR |
1838 |
Ab |
Rev. Type Ab More of C broken off Tone |
EF+-pAS |
150.00 |
GR |
1838 |
Ab |
Rev. Type
Ab More of C Broken off Bright |
EF |
85.00 |
GR |
1838 |
B |
Rev. Type B Broken C Deep
tone |
pAS |
175.00 |
GR |
1838 |
B |
Rev. Type B Broken C
Bright L. tone |
pAS/EF+ |
165.00 |
GR |
1838 |
C |
Rev. Type A Date: 8
over 8 sideways - Bright |
EF+-pAS |
245.00 |
GR |
1838 |
C |
Rev. Type A Date: 8 over 8 sideways -
Deep tone |
EF+-pAS |
245.00 |
GR |
1838 |
C |
Rev. Type A Date: 8
over 8 sideways - Toned |
EF+ |
195.00 |
GR |
1838 |
C |
Rev. Type A Date: 8
over 8 sideways - Bright |
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Obv.
Scuffing in field below bust |
EF/EF+ |
110.00 |
GR |
1838 |
C |
Rev. Type A Date: 8
over 8 sideways - Toned |
F+/VF? |
45.00 |
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1839 - Reverse & date varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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Date: Type a -Normal size (larger) 9 |
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Date: Type b - As above with Slight doubled 9 & dot !? |
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Date: Type c - Smaller 9
- bottom part filled in |
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GR |
1839 |
Aa |
Obv. Brilliant Choice.
Date: slight tone |
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Rev. Type A & Date: Type a |
pAS |
245.00 |
GR |
1839 |
Ba |
Slabbed by NGC MS64 - Choice deep tone |
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Rev. Type B & Date: Type a |
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Sorry - unable to scan as the coin
just blurs
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Rubbish pictures |
pAS |
250.00 |
GR |
1839 |
Bb |
Obv. D of F.: D.: doubled
& (Extra dots) |
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Rev. Type B & Date: Type
b
- The 9 is slightly |
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doubled
& a dot in the lower part ! |
EF?-EF |
90.00 |
GR |
1839 |
Bc |
Obv. F & D of F: D: slightly double struck (Extra dots) |
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Rev. Type B
& Date: Type c (smaller 9) |
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Choice Light toning |
pAS |
240.00 |
GR |
1839 |
Bc |
Obv. F & D of F: D: slightly double struck (Extra dots) |
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Rev. Type B
& Date: Type c
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Choice - light
tone around legend
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EF+-pAS |
225.00 |
GR |
1839 |
Bc |
Obv. Tiny edge nick 8 o'clock. Extra colon dots |
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Rev. Type B &
Date: Type c |
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Choice deep
golden greenish tone |
pAS |
215.00 |
GR |
1839 |
Bc |
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VF? |
12.50 |
GR |
1839 |
C |
Obv. Deep
tone |
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Rev.
Type B & Date: Type c |
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Rev. Nice
ghosting image. Lighter tone |
EF+ |
200.00 |
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1840 - Reverse & date varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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Rev. Type C - Reads PCNCE for PENCE |
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Date: Type a - Flat top 4. |
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Date: Type b - The 40 are smaller |
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Date: Type c - Slightly larger
pointed top 4 |
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Date: Type d - The 4 is tall &
slim |
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GR |
1840 |
A |
Obv. Many die crack lines along legend. |
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Rev. Type A - |
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Date Type a - Flat top 4 Numerals doubled |
pAS |
245.00 |
GR |
1840 |
A |
Rev. Type A - |
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Date: Type a - Flat top 4 Die flaw through
the 4 |
EF+-pAS |
215.00 |
GR |
1840 |
A |
Rev.
Type A - Possibly double struck ! |
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Type A - Date: Flat top 4
Bright |
EF |
150.00 |
GR |
1840 |
A |
Obv. Many
die crack lines along legend |
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Rev. Type A - |
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Date:
Type a - Flat top 4 numerals doubled |
EF?/EF |
115.00 |
GR |
1840 |
Ab1 |
Type D - Date:
Tall, slim, pointed top 4 |
Out of |
stock |
GR |
1840 |
Ac |
Obv. Trace of ghosting |
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Rev. Type A Die crack 7 o'clock
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Date: Type c - Date: pointed top 4 |
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Grade: Choice with golden tone |
pAS |
265.00 |
GR |
1840 |
Ac |
Rev.
Type A |
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Ghosting
& Die flaw - 3 o'clock |
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Date: Type c - Pointed top 4 |
pAS |
245.00 |
GR |
1840 |
Ac |
Rev. Type A |
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Rev.
N of PENCE double struck |
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Date Type c -
Pointed top 4 |
EF+ |
200.00 |
GR |
1840 |
Ac |
Rev. Type A |
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Date: Type c - Pointed top 4 |
EF?-EF |
110.00 |
GR |
1840 |
Ac |
Rev. Type A - Strong ghosting
appearance |
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of Victoria's
face |
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Date: Type c - Date: Pointed top 4 |
EF? |
85.00 |
GR |
1840 |
Ad |
Date
Type d - Smaller 40 |
Out of |
stock |
GR |
1840
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B |
Rev.
Type B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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Not
found so far with date type a - d but |
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left
available for when an example appears |
Not found |
so far |
GR |
1840 |
Cb |
Slabbed by NGC as MS63 - |
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no mention of this variety
! |
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Rev. Type C - Reads PCNCE &
broken 'C'- |
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Date: Type a - Flat top 4 |
Left as |
reference |
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Grade: Choice, Brilliant & VERY rare ! |
Out of |
stock |
GR |
1840 |
C |
Type B - Date:
Flat top 4 |
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Rev. Reads PCNCE - very rare |
VF+/EF? |
600.00 |
GR |
1840 |
C |
Type B - Date: Flat top 4 |
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Rev. Reads PCNCE - rare |
Fine |
125.00 |
GR |
1840 |
C |
Type B - Date:
Flat top 4 |
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Rev. Reads PCNCE - rare |
Fair? |
65.00 |
GR |
1840 |
C |
Type B - Date:
Flat top 4 |
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Rev. Reads PCNCE - rare |
Poor/Fair? |
50.00 |
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I
have found that 1841
is a scarce
and generally elusive date.
Over the last 15 years I have managed
to buy
many of the examples that have
appeared
on the market.
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Davies
lists a variety for 1841.
"small "N" in PENCE."
Which
I cannot or have not found in
over
20 years of looking.
I
feel that this variety seems unlikely as
that
would require a completely new
reverse
die with this legend font to have
been cut and used !
I would be very pleased if someone
could
show me an example of this die
with
a smaller "N" than those on the
normal reverse !
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It is unusual that I have managed to obtain
THREE 1841 Groats at different times
all with the same Die crack to the FOUR
on the reverse. One example even has a
slightly longer crack in the FOUR area
and an extra die crack higher up !
And a couple with ghosting due to Die clashing. |
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1841 - Reverse & date varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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Date:
Type a - Pointed top 4 with T- tail end - 1 to tooth |
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Date:
Type
b - Pointed top 4 with T- tail end - 1 to gap |
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Date: Type
c - 4
with a triangular tail end - Ext. Rare |
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Date:
Type
d - Last 1 of date over inverted 1 (Roman I) |
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GR |
1841 |
Aa |
Brilliant - Scarce date |
pAS |
340.00 |
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GR |
1841 |
Aa |
Light tone
around legend - Scarce date
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VF/VF+ |
65.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Rev. Die crack at FOUR
& date Choice |
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Light tone - SLABBED
NGC MS63 |
pAS |
335.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Obv. Ghosting. Date: Die
crack. Choice |
pAS |
330.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Date: Die
crack. Choice toned - Scarce date
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pAS |
325.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Rev.
Die crack at FOUR & date. Choice tone |
EF+ |
305.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Obv. Ghosting. Date: Die
crack. Choice |
EF+ |
295.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Rev. Ghosting and die
crack Trace of toning |
EF+ |
285.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Rev. Die crack at FOUR &
date. Choice tone |
EF?-EF |
175.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Bright |
VF+-EF? |
75.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ab |
Obv. Faint
hairline scratch Bright |
VF/VF+ |
50.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ac |
Rev.
Massive die cracks
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Date: The 4
has a triangular tail end !
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EF?/EF |
475.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ad |
Date: Last
1 over inverted 1 (Roman I)
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Fair/F |
195.00 |
GR |
1841 |
Ad |
Date: Last
1 over inverted 1 (Roman I)
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Out of |
stock |
GR |
1841 |
B |
Rev. Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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So far, not found with either of the date varieties |
NOT |
FOUND |
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1842 - Reverse & date varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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Date:
Type
a - Pointed top 4 with T tail end |
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Date: Type
b - 2 over 1 - Pointed top 4 with T tail end |
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Date: Type
c - Stop before 1 of the date |
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GR |
1842 |
A |
Choice pale
reddish grey tone |
pAS |
195.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Rev. Die
crack. Choice dark brown tone |
EF+-pAS |
185.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Bright |
EF |
80.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Rev. Die crack Bright |
EF |
75.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Light
greyish tone |
EF? |
60.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Bright |
VF+ |
45.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Dark toned |
VF+ |
40.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Bright |
VF/VF+ |
35.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Dark tone |
VF/VF+ |
35.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
Rev. A couple of slight edge
bruises 11 o'clock |
VF/VF+ |
25.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
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Fine/VF? |
15.00 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
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Fair/F |
8.50 |
GR |
1842 |
A |
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Fair?/F+ |
6.50 |
GR |
1842 |
Ab |
Date:
2 over 1 - RARE |
EF? |
325.00 |
GR |
1842 |
Ac |
Date: Stop
before 1 Choice
greyish tone |
pAS |
315.00 |
GR |
1842 |
B |
Rev. Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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So far, not found with either of the date varieties |
NOT |
FOUND |
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1843 - Reverse & date varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Date:
Type a - Pointed top 4 with T tail end (wide date) |
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Date:
Type
b - Pointed top 4 with T tail end (average) |
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Date:
Type
c -Pointed top 4 with T tail end (narrow) |
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Date: Type d - Larger 3 |
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GR |
1843 |
Aa |
Date: Wide |
Fine/F+ |
15.00 |
GR |
1843 |
Aa |
Date: Wide |
Fair/F |
10.00 |
GR |
1843 |
Ab |
Rev. Small die crack.
Bright |
EF+-pAS |
200.00 |
GR |
1843 |
Ab |
Date: (Average width) |
Fine/F+ |
15.00 |
GR |
1843 |
Ab |
Date: (Average width) |
Fair/F |
10.00 |
GR |
1843 |
Ac |
Date: (Narrow) |
Out of |
stock |
GR |
1843 |
Ad |
Rev. Die cracks. Date;
Larger 3 |
pAS |
225.00 |
GR |
1843 |
Ad |
Date: Larger 3 |
EF+-pAS |
200.00 |
GR |
1843 |
Ab |
Date: Larger 3 |
F+/VF? |
20.00 |
GR |
1843 |
B |
Rev. Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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So far, not found with either of the date varieties |
NOT |
FOUND |
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1844 - Reverse & date varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Date: Type
a -
Pointed top 4 with T tail end (Large 44) |
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Date: Type
b - 4 as per Type A (Large 4 4) [wider] |
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Date:
Type
c - Pointed top 4 with T tail end (small 44) |
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GR |
1844 |
Aa |
Date: Large
44 Choice pale green tone |
pAS |
215.00 |
GR |
1844 |
Aa |
Date: Large
44 Bright - hint of pale tone |
pAS |
210.00 |
GR |
1844 |
Aa |
Obv. & rev.
Ghosting from clashed dies |
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Date: Large 44
Deep dark tone |
EF |
100.00 |
GR |
1844 |
Aa |
Rev. Slight
scratch. Date: Large 44 |
EF? |
60.00 |
GR |
1844 |
Aa |
Date: Large 44 |
Fine/F+ |
12.50 |
GR |
1844 |
Aa |
Date: Large 44 |
Fair |
6.50 |
GR |
1844 |
Aa |
Date: Large 44 |
Fair?/+ |
5.00 |
GR |
1844 |
Ab |
Date: Large 44. Die flaw 1st 4 |
Fair?/Fine |
6.00 |
GR |
1844 |
Ac |
Date:
Smaller 44 Toning in legend |
EF+ |
215.00 |
GR |
1844 |
Ac |
Obv. Die crack Date:
Slightly smaller 44 Bright |
EF+ |
215.00 |
GR |
1844 |
B |
Rev. Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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So far, not found with either of the date varieties |
NOT |
FOUND |
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1845 - Reverse & date varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Date: Type
a - 5 has a fairly flat top. 4 has slant-up tail |
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Date: Type
b - 5 has curved up top. 4 has slant-up tail |
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Date: Type
c - Probably NOT 5 over 3 - see details why ! |
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GR |
1845 |
Ab |
Date:
Type b Choice deep tone |
EF+ |
195.00 |
GR |
1845 |
Ab |
Date: Type
b Toned |
EF-EF+ |
165.00 |
GR |
1845 |
Ac |
Date:
Type c Date: 5 looks as if it could |
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be
over a 3 but that is not likely - |
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See
why I argue again this variety |
EF |
285.00 |
GR |
1845 |
B |
Rev. Broken 'C' in PENCE |
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So far, not found with either of the date varieties |
NOT |
FOUND |
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In 1846 there have been sightings of more
examples
of the 'broken' C reverse die.
Having now examined my 1846 examples of
the 'broken' C
I am of the opinion that the 1846
reverse die is a different 'break' to that of 1838 to 1840 reverse B die.
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1846 - Reverse & date
varieties
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Rev. Type A
- Normal 'un-broken' C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type Aa - 'Part
broken' C in PENCE - as per 1838 |
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Rev. Type Aa - 'Part
broken' C in PENCE - as per 1846 |
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Rev. Type
B - 'Broken' C in PENCE |
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Date: Type a - Flat top 4 with slant-up tail |
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GR |
1846 |
Aa |
Rev. Type
Aa - 'Part broken' C in PENCE |
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Rev. Choice
ghosted image of Victoria Bright |
EF+ |
245.00 |
GR |
1846 |
B |
Rev. Type B
- 'Broken' or open tail C Deep tone |
EF+-pAS |
225.00 |
GR |
1846 |
B |
Rev. Type B - Broken or open tail C in PENCE |
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Rev. Couple of die cracks Light tone |
EF+-pAS |
225.00 |
GR |
1846 |
B |
Rev. Type B - Broken or open tail C in PENCE |
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GR |
1846 |
B |
Rev. Die crack & hairline scratch ! Light tone |
pAS/EF+ |
200.00 |
GR |
1846 |
B |
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F/F+ |
12.00 |
GR |
1846 |
B |
Dark and slightly pitted |
F+ |
10.00 |
GR |
1846 |
B |
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Fair?/+ |
5.00 |
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1847 - date & font types
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Date:
7 over 8 - 7 font - Type A: 7 leg curves backwards |
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Date:
7 over 8 - 7 font - Type B: 7 leg angled straight |
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GR |
1847 |
A |
Date: 7 over 8 - Extremely
RARE Brightish |
EF+ |
1775.00 |
GR |
1847 |
A |
Date: 7 over 8 - Extremely RARE -Brightish |
EF? |
1200.00 |
GR |
1847 |
Aa |
Date: 7 over 8
Extremely Rare
SOLD |
Left as |
reference |
GR |
1847 |
Aa |
Date: 7 over 8
Extremely Rare
SOLD |
Left as |
reference |
GR |
1847 |
B |
Date: 7 over 8 - Extremely RARE
Toned |
EF?-EF |
1250.00 |
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1848 - Reverse & date varieties
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1848 - NO over-date |
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Rev. Type A
(Normal C in PENCE) Date: Smaller 48 |
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Date:
Type a Smaller 48 |
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Rev. Type A
(Normal C in PENCE) |
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Date:
Type b Larger 48 |
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Rev. Type B
(Broken C in PENCE) |
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Date:
Type d Large 48 |
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1848 - Date: 8 over 6 |
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Rev. Type A
(Normal C in PENCE) |
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Date: Type d 8 over 6 Large 48 |
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Rev. Type A (Normal C in PENCE) |
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Date: Type e 8 over 6 (Large 48) - Extra 'bit'
above last 8 |
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Rev. Type B
(Broken C in PENCE) |
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Date:Type
f 6 over 8 (Large 48) |
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1848 - Date: 8 over 7 |
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Rev.
Type C (Thicker font letters in PENCE- E double struck) |
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Date:
Type h 8 over 7 (48 are small) |
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1848 - G over G sideways in D: G: |
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Obv. D G over G sideways in D: G: |
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Rev. Type A
(Normal C in PENCE) |
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Date:
Type a 48
are small |
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1848 - NO over-date |
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GR |
1848 |
Aa |
Rev. Type A (Normal C in PENCE) |
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Date: Type a Smaller 48 Bright |
EF+ |
195.00 |
GR |
1848 |
Ab |
Rev. Type A (Normal C in PENCE) |
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Date: Type b Large 48 |
Out of |
stock |
GR |
1848 |
Bb |
Rev. Type B (Broken C in PENCE) |
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Date: Type b Large 48
Bright |
EF?/EF |
75.00 |
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1848 - Date: 8 over 6 |
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GR |
1848 |
Bd |
Rev. Type B
( Broken C in PENCE) |
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Date: Type d 8 over 6 (last
8) [Large
48] |
EF |
110.00 |
GR |
1848 |
Bd |
Rev
Type B (Broken C in PENCE) |
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Date:
Type d 8 over 6 (last
8)
[Large 48] |
EF |
110.00 |
GR |
1848 |
Bd |
Rev. Type B (Broken C in PENCE) |
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Date: Type d 8 over 6 (last 8)
[Large 48] |
Fine/F+ |
25.00 |
GR |
1848 |
Bd |
Rev. Type B (broken C in PENCE) |
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Date: Type d 8 over 6 (last 8)
[Large 48] |
Poor/Fair |
6.00 |
GR |
1848 |
Bf |
Rev. Type B (broken C in PENCE) |
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Date:
Type f 8 over 6
or 6 over 8 !
[Large 48] |
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An unusual variety that no one has ever questioned before. See link for
details |
EF+/pAS |
425.00 |
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1848 - Date: 8 over 7 |
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GR |
1848 |
Ch |
Rev. Type C (With thicker font
letters) |
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Date: 8 over 8 over 7 - Choice deep tone |
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Only found
with smaller 48 |
pAS |
450.00 |
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1848 - G over G sideways in D: G: |
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GR |
1848 |
Da |
Obv. Type D G over G sideways in
D: G: |
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Rev. Type A (Normal C
in PENCE) |
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Date: Smaller 48 Bright |
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Unlisted -
New variety - Very Rare |
VF+/EF? |
850.00 |
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1849 - Reverse & date varieties
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Rev. Type A - Normal un-broken C in PENCE |
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Rev. Type
B - Broken 'C' in PENCE - not yet found |
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Rev. Type
C - 1st E of PENCE double struck |
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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1849 - Slant-up tail 4 |
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Date: Type a Large Flat
top 4 & slant up tail |
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Date: Type b Smaller flat
top 4 & slant up tail |
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Type
B - Rev. 1st E of PENCE double struck
Date: Pointed over flat
top 4 & slant up tail
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1849 - T-bar tail 4 |
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Date: Type e Flat
top 4 & T- bar tail |
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Date: Type f Flat
top 4 & T- bar tail. Slimmer 9 |
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Date: Type g Tall - slim 4 ?? & T- bar tail |
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1849 - Triangular T-bar tail 4 |
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Date: Type h
Flat
top 4 & Triangular - bar tail |
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1849 - Slant-up tail 4 |
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GR |
1849 |
Ab |
Rev. A Date: Type b -
Smaller 49 -Slant-up tail |
F+/VF? |
17.50 |
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1849 - T-bar tail 4 |
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GR |
1849 |
Af |
Rev. A Date: Type f Flat top 4 & T - bar tail |
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Date: 9 over 9 |
EF/EF+ |
200.00 |
GR |
1849 |
Af |
Rev. A Date: Type f Flat
top 4 & T - bar tail |
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Rev. Die crack. Date: 9 over 9 |
EF/EF+ |
195.00 |
GR |
1849 |
Af |
Rev. A Date: Type f Flat
top 4 & T - bar tail |
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Rev. Ghosted image & 4 die cracks |
EF/EF+ |
195.00 |
GR |
1849 |
Ag |
Rev. A Date: Type
f Flat
top 4 & T - bar tail |
Fine |
8.50 |
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1849 - Triangular T-bar tail 4 |
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GR |
1849 |
Ah |
Rev. A Date: Type h
Date: Triangular - bar tail |
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Slabbed by NGC - MS65 |
pAS |
375.00 |
GR |
1849 |
Ah |
Rev. A Date: Type h Date: Triangular
- bar tail |
pAS |
365.00 |
GR |
1849 |
Ah |
Rev. A Date: Type h Date: Triangular - bar tail |
EF+/pAS |
360.00 |
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1849 - Rev. C with Slant-up tail 4 |
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GR |
1849 |
Cc |
Rev.
C Date: Type c |
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Rev. 1st E of PENCE double struck |
pAS |
350.00 |
GR |
1849 |
Cc |
Rev. C Date:
Type c |
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Rev. 1st E of
PENCE repaired |
F+/VF? |
40.00 |
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1851 Reverse &
Date
Mintage: 594,000 - VERY Scarce
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Rev. Type D
Large E over small E in PENCE |
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Date: Type
a Large 5 |
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GR |
1851 |
Aa |
Rev. Type D Large E over small E in PENCE |
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Date:
Type a Large 5 |
EF? |
450.00 |
GR |
1851 |
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I am pleased to offer a very unusual 1851 |
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Groat that has been enamelled and probably |
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used as a lapel badge - Pictures |
VF |
75.00 |
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1852 -
Reverse & Date
Mintage: 31,300 - RARE
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Rev: Type
A Original font PENCE |
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Date: Type
a Date: Slightly large 52 - 2 over 2 |
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GR |
1852 |
A |
Rev. Type A Original font PENCE |
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Date: Type a Slight larger 52 - 2 over 2 |
VF+ |
850.00 |
GR |
1852 |
A |
Obv. Scuffed |
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Rev. Type A Original font PENCE |
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Date:.Type a Slightly larger 52 - 2 over 2 |
F+/VF |
350.00 |
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1853 -
Obverse & Date (Possibly proof only)
Mintage: 11,800 - RARE
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Ref: A - Currency issue ! |
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Ref: P - Obv. 1
- Date: Type A (Proof) ↑↑ |
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Ref: Pa - Obv.
1 - Date: Type Aa (Proof) - Worn die ↑↑ |
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Ref: P1 - Obv.
1 - Date: Type Aa (Proof) ↑↓ |
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Ref: R - Left free in case an example with
Obv. 2 is found |
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Ref: S - Obv. 3
- Date: Type B (Proof) ↑↑ |
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Ref: T - Obv. 4
- Date: Type B (Proof) ↑↑ |
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GR |
1853 |
P |
All above types - out of stock |
Out
of |
stock |
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1854
Obverse, Reverse &
Date
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Obv. 1 - With minor
colon dot variations |
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Rev. A - normal |
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Date - Flat top 4 with
T-bar tail |
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GR |
1854 |
A |
Trace of ghosting on both sides |
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Rev. N of PENCE double struck |
EF+ |
150.00 |
GR |
1854 |
A |
Rev. U of FOUR double struck |
EF |
95.00 |
GR |
1854 |
A |
Bright |
VF/VF+ |
35.00 |
GR |
1854 |
A |
Toned |
VF/VF+ |
35.00 |
GR |
1854 |
A |
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Fair/F+ |
9.50 |
GR |
1854 |
A |
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Fair/F |
7.50 |
GR |
1854 |
A |
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Fair |
6.00 |
GR |
1854 |
Ab |
Obv. Last R of BRIT~R touching colon dot |
VF/VF+ |
45.00 |
GR |
1854 |
Ap |
Obv. Large colon dots after
F : D : Bright |
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Rev. Hairline scratch at 12
o'clock - 4 mm |
VF+ |
40.00 |
GR |
1854 |
Ax |
Date: Extended foot
to right of 4 |
EF |
105.00 |
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1855 -
Reverse & Date varieties
All with obverse 1
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Ref. A - Rev. A Normal PENCE |
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Ref. B - Rev. B Large E over
small E |
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Date: a - Normal width date |
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Date: b - Narrow width date |
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Date: c - 1st 5 over 5 |
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Date: d - 2nd (last) 5 over 5 |
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Date: e - 2nd (last) 5 over 5 (bit
only) |
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Date: g - Both 5's over 5 |
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GR |
1855 |
Aa |
Rev. A (Normal) Date:
a (Normal) |
F+/VF |
18.50 |
GR |
1855 |
Aa |
Rev. A (Normal) Date:
b (Normal) |
Fair?/F |
5.00 |
GR |
1855 |
Ad |
Rev. A (Normal) Date:
d (2nd 5 over 5) |
F+/VF |
19.50 |
GR |
1855 |
Dc |
Rev. B (E over E)
Date: c (1st 5 over 5) |
Fine/VF |
22.50 |
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1857 - Proof
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1857
P - Obv. 3 - Proof issue only |
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GR |
1857 |
P |
Obv. 3 - Proof |
Out
of |
stock |
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1862 - Proof
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1862
P - Obv. 2 With F: D (Plain edge) - Proof |
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1862 R - Obv. 2 (Milled edge) - Proof |
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1862
S - Obv. 3 (Palin edge) - Proof |
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GR |
1862 |
P |
All above types - out of stock |
Out
of |
stock |
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Victoria [Jubilee head] 1888 |
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1888 - date varieties
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Rev. F
Similarity to 1862 - but the FOUR repaired |
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Rev. G
The U of FOUR has thick left & right leg !? |
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Date:
Type a (Wide date) |
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Date:
Type b (Narrow date) |
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GR |
1888 |
A |
Date: Type a (Wide date)
Hint of tone |
pAS |
185.00 |
GR |
1888 |
A |
Date: Type a
Bright |
EF+ |
150.00 |
GR |
1888 |
A |
Date: Type a Brightish |
VF/VF+ |
40.00 |
GR |
1888 |
A |
Date: Type a Toned |
Fine |
15.00 |
GR |
1888 |
Ab |
Date:
Type b (narrower) Bright-
hint of tone |
EF+ |
165.00 |
GR |
1888 |
Ab |
Light scuffing on both sides |
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Date:
Type b (narrower)
Bright |
EF? |
70.00 |
GR |
1888 |
Ab |
Date:
Type b (narrower)
Bright |
VF/VF+ |
45.00 |
GR |
1888 |
Ba |
Rev. Type G - The U of FOUR has both the left
&
right leg - thick ! |
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Date:
Type 1 (Wide date) Bright |
VF+/EF? |
450.00 |
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