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[BP]   BRONZE PENCE 1874 - 1901

GRADE 

Price (£)


Some collectors have started collecting or recording variations in date widths. 

I do not consider the great majority of these variations as being of significant importance or rarity above the norm. 

Some, like the 1889 narrow date, do eventually achieve a rarity status and command a premium over the norm. 

Only time will tell which of the others do ! 

I shall list and scan some of the variations that pass through my hands.

1874 - 3 Obverse & 3 Reverse types

Either Royal or Heaton Mint (H below = Heaton)

Obv. J   Young head (Fabric rose - whole)
Obv. K   Older head (Fabric rose - half)
Obv. L   As Obv. K - but tie ribbons now very close together
Rev. g  Large date. Sea OVER linear circle
* Rev. ga  - Date spacing noted - 11  teeth from 1 to 4
* Rev. gb  - Date spacing noted - 11 ½  teeth from 1 to 4
* Rev. gc  - Date spacing noted - 12  teeth from 1 to 4
* Rev. gd  - Date spacing noted - 13 teeth from 1 to 4
Rev. h  Large date. Sea up to linear circle
Rev. j  Narrow date. - 10 ½ teeth from 1 to 4
BP 1874 Ac J + gc  Dark colour - Pitted VF+ 20.00
BP 1874 Ca K + ga Fair? 5.00
BP 1874 Cb K + gb    F 8.00
BP 1874 Cb K + gb   Obv. Small dig below bust  F/? 4.50
BP 1874 Cb K + gb Fair 4.00
BP 1874 Cb K + gb   Obv. Small dig by eye  F 3.50
BP 1874 Cc K + gc Poor+ 3.00
BP 1874 D K + j  VF-VF+ 50.00
BP 1874 D K + j  F/F+ 12.50
BP 1874 D K + j  Fair/F 7.50
BP 1874 D K + j  Fair 6.00
BP 1874 D K + j  Hairline scratch - both sides F 4.50
BP 1874 D K + j  Fair? 4.00
BP 1874 Hb J + gb  (Heaton mint)
Rev. Hairline scratch from top to arm (9 mm) VF+ 30.00
BP 1874 Hb J + gb  (Heaton mint) F+ 10.00
BP 1874 Hb J + gb  (Heaton mint)

Dark with light overall pitting

F-F+ 5.00
BP 1874 Hb J + gb  (Heaton mint) Fair 4.00
BP 1874 K J + j  (Heaton mint)  Light pitting  [Rare] Poor+ 6.00
BP 1874 Lb K + gb  (Heaton mint) VF+ 65.00
BP 1874 Lb K + gb  (Heaton mint) F/Fair 10.00
BP 1874 Lb K + gb  (Heaton mint) Fair/? 4.00
BP 1874 Lc K + ga  (Heaton mint) F-F+ 14.00
BP 1874 Lc K + gc  (Heaton mint) Fair/? 5.00
BP 1874 M K + h  (Heaton mint)  Ext. rare (7th known)    
      * Picture left as reference sold 1 August 2007 VF+ SOLD
BP 1874 N K + j  (Heaton mint) EF? 50.00
BP 1874 N K + j  (Heaton mint)
Obv. Few tiny pitting spots  VF-VF+ 28.00
BP 1874 N K + j  (Heaton mint) F+ 8.50
BP 1874 N K + j  (Heaton mint)
Obv. Small bits of ex-verdigris VF? 8.00
BP 1874 N K + j  (Heaton mint) F 7.00
BP 1874 N K + j  (Heaton mint)  Slight edge knocks F 5.00
BP 1874 N K + j  (Heaton mint)  Very slight kink? F/? 3.50
BP 1874 N K + j  (Heaton mint)   Fair/? 3.00
1875 - 3 Reverse types
Either Royal or Heaton Mint (H below = Heaton)
Rev. g   Large date. Sea OVER linear circle
Rev. j   Small date.
Rev. k   Large date. Sea up to linear circle
BP 1875 B L + j  AU20-25 125.00
BP 1875 B L + j  EF? 45.00
BP 1875 B L + j  Slight rim knock - 8 o'clock

Lightly polished in the past?

VF+ 25.00
BP 1875 B L + j  VF 15.00
BP 1875 B L + j  F+-VF? 9.50
BP 1875 B L + j F+ 8.00
BP 1875 B L + j  F-F+ 7.00
BP 1875 B L + j  F 6.00
BP 1875 B L + j  Fair 3.50
BP 1875 C L + k  AU85 265.00
BP 1875 C L + k  AU85/75 235.00
BP 1875 C L + k  EF? 50.00
BP 1875 C L + k  VF+-EF? 45.00
BP 1875 C L + k  Very faint surface pitting EF? 40.00
BP 1875 C L + k   F+ 8.50
BP 1875 C L + k  F-F+ 7.50
BP 1875 C L + k  Some pitting on both sides VF 6.50
BP 1875 C L + k  F 6.00
BP 1875 C L + k  Fair-F 5.00
BP 1875 C L + k  Dark - light overall pitting F+ 4.50
BP 1875 C L + k  Fair 4.00
BP 1875 C L + k  Rev. Small dig at top F 3.00
BP 1875 Cf L + k  Rotated die 20%
ex Laurie Bamford collection VF+ 45.00
BP 1875 H L + k  (Heaton mint)  Rare in this grade EF? 750.00
BP 1875 H (Heaton) Rev. edge nick 4 o'clock

Dark and claggy

Fair-F 5.00
BP 1875 H L + k  (Heaton mint) Poor 4.50
BP 1875 H L + k  (Heaton mint) C. date 3.50
1876 - 2 Reverse types 
ONLY - Heaton Mint (H below = Heaton)
Rev. k   Large date  (Scarce)
Rev. m   Small date
BP 1876 H L + k  (Heaton mint)  Very rare in this grade
ex Laurie Bamford collection AU75 450.00
BP 1876 H L + k  (Heaton mint)  Very scarce in this grade
Obv. Traces of lustre in legend EF-EF+ 175.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) EF 60.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) EF?-EF 54.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) EF? 40.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) VF+ 30.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) VF 20.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) VF?-VF 15.00
BP 1876 K L + m     Obv. A bit claggy VF 12.50
BP 1876 K L + m     Obv. Some rim nicks VF 12.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) F 6.50
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) F? 5.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint)  Slight pitting F-F+ 4.00
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint) Fair 3.50
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint)      Slight kink by date F 3.25
BP 1876 K L + m  (Heaton mint)      Pitting F-F+ 3.00

1877 - 2 Reverse types (As 1874)

Rev. j   Small date   (Ext. RARE)
Rev. k   Large date
BP 1877 B L + k AU85 240.00
BP 1877 B L + k  A couple of tiny ex-carbons spots AU80/75 200.00
BP 1877 B L + k AU70-75 185.00
BP 1877 B L + k  Bright but lightly polished AU65 135.00
BP 1877 B L + k  A couple of tiny ex-carbons spots AU20-25 90.00
BP 1877 B L + k EF 50.00
BP 1877 B L + k EF? 42.00
BP 1877 B L + k  Obv. Fine hairline scratch on cheek EF? 35.00
BP 1877 B L + k             Very dark tone EF? 33.00
BP 1877 B L + k  Obv. Tiny knock 11 o'clock VF+-EF? 30.00
BP 1877 B L + k VF-VF+ 24.00
BP 1877 B L + k  Obv. Small indent at top leaf

Small edge nick 7 o'clock

VF+ 18.50
BP 1877 B L + k  Couple of faint edge bruises VF-VF+ 17.50
BP 1877 B L + k VF 16.50
BP 1877 B L + k F+ 8.50
BP 1877 B L + k F 5.00
BP 1877 B L + k       A bit claggy F+ 4.50
BP 1877 B L + k  Obv. Old scuff mark on face F/VF? 4.00
BP 1877 B L + k Fair 3.50
BP 1878 A EF-EF+ 135.00
BP 1878 A Rev. Slightly porous field.
Date: Late 8 of 1878 is weak struck EF/EF? 85.00
BP 1878 A Fair 6.50
BP 1878 A Fair/? 6.00
BP 1878 A Fair? 4.50
BP 1878 A

Overall pitting

Fair 3.50

1879 - 2 Obverse & 2 Reverse types

Obv. L   Leaf vein is raised line
Obv. M   Leaf vein is 2 incuse lines
Rev. k   Large date  (minor varieties)
Rev. m   Small date
BP 1879 B M + k EF? 36.00
BP 1879 B M + k VF+-EF? 30.00
BP 1879 B M + k VF+ 25.00
BP 1879 B M + k VF-VF+ 22.50
BP 1879 B M + k VF 20.00
BP 1879 B M + k F+ 6.50
BP 1879 B M + k F 5.00
BP 1879 B M + k Fair 3.50
BP 1879 B M + k   Rev. A bit of light pitting Fair 3.00
BP 1879 C M + m  Obv. 90% of legend clear
Rev. PEN clear, 90% of Brit.. Date clear Fair?/?? 10.00
BP 1879 C M + m  Obv. Dig on neck Fair/?? 6.00
BP 1879 C M + m Clear date 3.00

1880 - 2 Reverse types

Rev. k   NO rock to left of lighthouse
Rev. n   Rocks to left of lighthouse
BP 1880 A M + k  Obv. Slight scratch below chin F 8.50
BP 1880 A M + k Fair/? 4.00
BP 1880 A M + k Fair/?? 2.50
BP 1880 B M + n  AU15/50 225.00
BP 1880 B M + n  Very slight wear - lustre in legend EF5 140.00
BP 1880 B M + n  EF 115.00
BP 1880 B M + n   Obv. A couple of tiny edge nicks F 12.50
BP 1880 B M + n  Fair 5.00
BP 1880 B M + n  Fair? 3.50

1881 - 3 Obverse & 2 Reverse types

Obv. M   Ribbon points OUTWARDS
Obv. N   Ribbon points DOWN. 'D' of D:G: to gap
Obv. P   Ribbon points DOWN. 'D' of D:G: to tooth
Rev. k   Plain shield
Rev. p   Heraldically coloured shield
BP 1881 A M + k   Traces of lustre in legend EF+ 240.00
BP 1881 A M + k   Rev. Hairline scratch from 'P' to knee EF+ 205.00
BP 1881 A M + k   Obv. Tiny edge knock 2 o'clock F+ 26.50
BP 1881 A M + k   Obv. Slightly claggy Fair/F 15.00
BP 1881 A M + k    A couple of sharp digs, etc VF? 8.50
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint)  Superb coin !
ex Laurie Bamford collection AU90 325.00
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint)  Hint of lustre EF+ 85.00
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint) EF? 60.00
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint) VF? 15.00
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint) F/F+ 9.50
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint) F 7.00
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint)

Obv. Small dig on neck - lightly polished 

VF? 6.50
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint) F/Fair 6.00
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton)  Rev. Slight pitting F 5.00
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint) Fair 4.50
BP 1881 H P + p  (Heaton mint)  Rev. Slight pitting Fair 4.00

1882 - 2 Obverse & 2 Reverse types

Obv. P   'R' & 'I' of BRITT - not joined
Obv. R   'R' & 'I' of BRITT - joined
Rev. p   Heraldic shield - CONVEX
Rev. r   Heraldic shield - FLAT
Date: Varieties of 1882 over 1
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint) 
*A similar coin fetched £475.00
in the Alderley collection (Jan 2007) AU85 225.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  AU75 195.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  AU60-65 165.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  AU50-55 150.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  The H is double struck
ex Laurie Bamford collection  AU45/55 145.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  The H is slightly double struck AU5-10 100.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  Slight weak on cheek EF10/15 95.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint) 
Rev. Small nick on rim by H at date
& scratch on right side of 2nd '8' EF?/EF 30.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint) 
Scuffing on both side - more on rev.  EF?/EF 25.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  VF?/VF 14.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  Very slight pitting VF?/VF 12.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  A bit claggy VF?/VF 9.50
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  Dark ! VF?/VF 8.50
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  F+/VF? 7.50
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  F 5.00
BP 1882 N R + r  (Heaton mint)  Fair/F 3.00

1883 - 2 Obverse types as (1882)

Except that all the coins are from Royal Mint

BP 1883 A P + r   Obv. Slight pitting VF/VF+ 30.00
BP 1883 A P + r   Claggy and pitted Fair/F+ 3.00
BP 1883 B R + r   ex Laurie Bamford collection AU85/90 265.00
BP 1883 B R + r    AU80 235.00
BP 1883 B R + r    AU75/80 225.00
BP 1883 B R + r    AU5 100.00
BP 1883 B R + r    VF+/EF? 40.00
BP 1883 B R + r    Fair 4.00
BP 1883 B R + r